1 00:00:06,070 --> 00:00:03,189 well uh first beginning uh we were 2 00:00:08,150 --> 00:00:06,080 watching television and we have 3 00:00:10,549 --> 00:00:08,160 six dogs here and they started raising a 4 00:00:11,749 --> 00:00:10,559 fuss in which they never do much so i 5 00:00:13,749 --> 00:00:11,759 went outside 6 00:00:15,829 --> 00:00:13,759 and gave a yell at them and as i turned 7 00:00:18,070 --> 00:00:15,839 around to come back on the porch 8 00:00:20,310 --> 00:00:18,080 i looked to the north of me 9 00:00:23,349 --> 00:00:20,320 and uh there were 10 00:00:25,830 --> 00:00:23,359 looked like a fallen star or meter it 11 00:00:28,710 --> 00:00:25,840 was red and kind of coming down and on a 12 00:00:30,630 --> 00:00:28,720 45 45 and 13 00:00:31,910 --> 00:00:30,640 so then i 14 00:00:33,510 --> 00:00:31,920 watched it and i was going to see if it 15 00:00:35,750 --> 00:00:33,520 landed and then maybe go down and see 16 00:00:37,670 --> 00:00:35,760 what it was and uh when it got to the 17 00:00:41,030 --> 00:00:37,680 top of the trees it stopped 18 00:00:42,389 --> 00:00:41,040 in a blue and a white light come on 19 00:00:43,750 --> 00:00:42,399 and uh 20 00:00:45,029 --> 00:00:43,760 i looked at it and i thought i was 21 00:00:47,270 --> 00:00:45,039 seeing things 22 00:00:49,990 --> 00:00:47,280 frank banner's ufo remained over his 23 00:00:52,709 --> 00:00:50,000 swamp more than four hours his children 24 00:00:56,069 --> 00:00:52,719 saw it his in-laws saw it residents of 25 00:00:58,069 --> 00:00:56,079 the area saw it the police saw it 26 00:00:59,830 --> 00:00:58,079 no one photographed it but sergeant 27 00:01:02,389 --> 00:00:59,840 newell schneider of the sheriff's office 28 00:01:06,310 --> 00:01:02,399 remembered it well enough to draw it no 29 00:01:08,550 --> 00:01:06,320 it uh moved very rapidly at any speed or 30 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:08,560 rather any direction it wanted to go why 31 00:01:12,710 --> 00:01:10,080 i could change and go to the right or 32 00:01:14,310 --> 00:01:12,720 the left or go crossways uh without 33 00:01:15,910 --> 00:01:14,320 hesitating a bit 34 00:01:17,510 --> 00:01:15,920 what do you think it was 35 00:01:19,429 --> 00:01:17,520 well if they call it a flying saucer 36 00:01:21,830 --> 00:01:19,439 that's what it is 37 00:01:24,149 --> 00:01:21,840 40 miles away another swamp land and 38 00:01:26,070 --> 00:01:24,159 another ufo sighting 39 00:01:28,070 --> 00:01:26,080 this is hillsdale and the girls at 40 00:01:29,109 --> 00:01:28,080 hillsdale college had a night to 41 00:01:30,789 --> 00:01:29,119 remember 42 00:01:33,830 --> 00:01:30,799 well when i was looking out the window 43 00:01:37,350 --> 00:01:33,840 with binoculars i guess it was about 12. 44 00:01:39,510 --> 00:01:37,360 i saw it and i saw two red lights and i 45 00:01:40,870 --> 00:01:39,520 saw what looked to be shaped like a pie 46 00:01:42,870 --> 00:01:40,880 i could just see the front of it i just 47 00:01:44,230 --> 00:01:42,880 saw the round front and i see the lights 48 00:01:45,590 --> 00:01:44,240 on either side 49 00:01:47,429 --> 00:01:45,600 and then the red light was sort of 50 00:01:48,710 --> 00:01:47,439 casting a glow over the whole thing so 51 00:01:51,030 --> 00:01:48,720 it looked like 52 00:01:52,389 --> 00:01:51,040 a round disc at first when i'd heard the 53 00:01:53,429 --> 00:01:52,399 other girls talk about it i didn't 54 00:01:57,429 --> 00:01:53,439 really 55 00:01:59,590 --> 00:01:57,439 make myself comprehend it because i 56 00:02:01,350 --> 00:01:59,600 hadn't seen it with my own eyes but then 57 00:02:04,630 --> 00:02:01,360 when i saw it 58 00:02:05,749 --> 00:02:04,640 i just was fascinated i wasn't afraid 59 00:02:12,790 --> 00:02:05,759 i 60 00:02:16,309 --> 00:02:12,800 but 61 00:02:18,710 --> 00:02:16,319 i don't 62 00:02:21,350 --> 00:02:18,720 i believe i saw it but i can't fathom it 63 00:02:23,430 --> 00:02:21,360 because it seems so unreal william van 64 00:02:26,150 --> 00:02:23,440 horn hillsdale's undertaker and civil 65 00:02:28,150 --> 00:02:26,160 defense director also spotted the ufo 66 00:02:31,030 --> 00:02:28,160 and was out with his geiger counter next 67 00:02:33,430 --> 00:02:31,040 day checking a mysterious perfect circle 68 00:02:35,910 --> 00:02:33,440 where the ufo had been seen 69 00:02:37,670 --> 00:02:35,920 van horn did not find any radioactivity 70 00:02:39,589 --> 00:02:37,680 here but this did not shake his 71 00:02:41,670 --> 00:02:39,599 certainty that he had seen a hovering 72 00:02:43,589 --> 00:02:41,680 vehicle with two lights 73 00:02:46,470 --> 00:02:43,599 many people ask him why he did not go 74 00:02:48,550 --> 00:02:46,480 right up to the ufo in the dark i'd uh 75 00:02:49,430 --> 00:02:48,560 much rather be a live coward than a dead 76 00:02:52,229 --> 00:02:49,440 hero 77 00:02:53,589 --> 00:02:52,239 and with the area of uncertainty that we 78 00:02:55,830 --> 00:02:53,599 have here 79 00:02:57,110 --> 00:02:55,840 how do i know but what 80 00:03:01,190 --> 00:02:57,120 maybe 81 00:03:03,509 --> 00:03:01,200 uh another electrical charge which is 82 00:03:05,190 --> 00:03:03,519 being radiated by one of these vehicles 83 00:03:07,030 --> 00:03:05,200 which would uh 84 00:03:09,270 --> 00:03:07,040 electrocute you if you got within a 85 00:03:11,910 --> 00:03:09,280 certain area of it there was no sound 86 00:03:14,550 --> 00:03:11,920 whatsoever i could not hear a 87 00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:14,560 a bit of sound nycaps director major 88 00:03:19,350 --> 00:03:17,040 donald e kehoe a retired marine corps 89 00:03:22,070 --> 00:03:19,360 officer insisted that the air force knew 90 00:03:24,550 --> 00:03:22,080 more than it was telling we are 91 00:03:27,110 --> 00:03:24,560 being observed 92 00:03:29,830 --> 00:03:27,120 by some type of device 93 00:03:31,430 --> 00:03:29,840 which is ahead of us 94 00:03:33,110 --> 00:03:31,440 far ahead of us and is probably 95 00:03:35,830 --> 00:03:33,120 controlled by a 96 00:03:38,070 --> 00:03:35,840 highly advanced superior civilization 97 00:03:40,949 --> 00:03:38,080 now this is a conclusion which i 98 00:03:43,030 --> 00:03:40,959 personally have stated and is shared by 99 00:03:44,830 --> 00:03:43,040 some members of our board of governors 100 00:03:46,869 --> 00:03:44,840 and advisers not all of 101 00:03:49,190 --> 00:03:46,879 them but 102 00:03:51,030 --> 00:03:49,200 it has reached to the point where 103 00:03:53,030 --> 00:03:51,040 many people in the air force have the 104 00:03:54,949 --> 00:03:53,040 same conclusion in fact the air force at 105 00:03:56,630 --> 00:03:54,959 one time had a top secret estimate that 106 00:03:57,990 --> 00:03:56,640 these things were interplanetary 107 00:03:59,670 --> 00:03:58,000 spaceships 108 00:04:01,429 --> 00:03:59,680 so you will see that this instead of 109 00:04:03,670 --> 00:04:01,439 being a 110 00:04:05,990 --> 00:04:03,680 subject for ridicule 111 00:04:08,309 --> 00:04:06,000 and a big joke actually is a serious 112 00:04:09,589 --> 00:04:08,319 matter which could affect the lives of 113 00:04:11,750 --> 00:04:09,599 all of us 114 00:04:14,149 --> 00:04:11,760 and for the umpteenth time in as many 115 00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:14,159 years the air force called before a 116 00:04:18,150 --> 00:04:15,920 congressional committee said it was 117 00:04:20,229 --> 00:04:18,160 hiding nothing air force secretary 118 00:04:22,150 --> 00:04:20,239 harold brown we have 119 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:22,160 not been hiding anything 120 00:04:27,749 --> 00:04:24,560 the investigations have been 121 00:04:29,909 --> 00:04:27,759 made public the explanations of those 122 00:04:31,430 --> 00:04:29,919 where there is a clear explanation have 123 00:04:34,230 --> 00:04:31,440 been made public the hearing this 124 00:04:37,189 --> 00:04:34,240 morning was public for just that reason 125 00:04:39,990 --> 00:04:37,199 in those cases where for lack of data or 126 00:04:41,270 --> 00:04:40,000 lack of a convincing hypothesis 127 00:04:45,510 --> 00:04:41,280 the 128 00:04:47,830 --> 00:04:45,520 unidentified category we've been 129 00:04:50,390 --> 00:04:47,840 perfectly willing to say that too 130 00:04:52,550 --> 00:04:50,400 but if the air force had nothing to hide 131 00:04:54,230 --> 00:04:52,560 frank manor the michigan farmer who had 132 00:04:55,990 --> 00:04:54,240 brought in the first report 133 00:04:58,230 --> 00:04:56,000 was caught in the middle 134 00:05:00,230 --> 00:04:58,240 he was mad well you can look at here 135 00:05:01,430 --> 00:05:00,240 look beer bottle's throwing look at my 136 00:05:02,629 --> 00:05:01,440 windshield 137 00:05:03,909 --> 00:05:02,639 what would you think if somebody was 138 00:05:04,870 --> 00:05:03,919 throwing beer bottles at your house 139 00:05:05,909 --> 00:05:04,880 stand out in the middle of the road 140 00:05:07,029 --> 00:05:05,919 screaming 141 00:05:08,790 --> 00:05:07,039 uh 142 00:05:10,710 --> 00:05:08,800 you nut they're fantastic and all that 143 00:05:12,310 --> 00:05:10,720 what would you think are you sorry now 144 00:05:15,270 --> 00:05:12,320 that you did tell people what you saw 145 00:05:17,110 --> 00:05:15,280 yes i am i am i'm sorry because it 146 00:05:19,189 --> 00:05:17,120 not that it's not the truth but it's 147 00:05:21,110 --> 00:05:19,199 just the idea the reaction of the people 148 00:05:22,950 --> 00:05:21,120 they think you're a 149 00:05:24,870 --> 00:05:22,960 nut tell you the truth that's just what 150 00:05:26,150 --> 00:05:24,880 they figure you are and i'm not going to 151 00:05:29,029 --> 00:05:26,160 take it anymore i don't want nobody down 152 00:05:30,950 --> 00:05:29,039 in here i just leave me alone 153 00:05:32,790 --> 00:05:30,960 and if the thing lands right there and 154 00:05:33,670 --> 00:05:32,800 right there by that punk i'd never say a 155 00:05:35,029 --> 00:05:33,680 word 156 00:05:36,629 --> 00:05:35,039 then he got out and talked to me i 157 00:05:37,990 --> 00:05:36,639 wouldn't tell nobody 158 00:05:40,790 --> 00:05:38,000 that's just the way i feel i'm bitter 159 00:05:42,870 --> 00:05:40,800 and and disgusted in the whole matter 160 00:05:44,790 --> 00:05:42,880 and if if people's going to act like 161 00:05:47,350 --> 00:05:44,800 that i hope one lands right in ann arbor 162 00:05:49,350 --> 00:05:47,360 right in the middle of detroit mr ford 163 00:05:51,189 --> 00:05:49,360 uh what about flying saucers you've had 164 00:05:53,270 --> 00:05:51,199 some in michigan in the past 165 00:05:54,390 --> 00:05:53,280 week if you really believe in flying 166 00:05:56,790 --> 00:05:54,400 saucers you've called for a 167 00:05:59,909 --> 00:05:56,800 congressional investigation dave we've 168 00:06:01,830 --> 00:05:59,919 had several uh incidents in michigan in 169 00:06:03,990 --> 00:06:01,840 the last week 170 00:06:04,950 --> 00:06:04,000 uh incident that 171 00:06:08,309 --> 00:06:04,960 many 172 00:06:11,590 --> 00:06:08,319 reliable good citizens felt were 173 00:06:14,390 --> 00:06:11,600 sufficient to justify some action by our 174 00:06:17,350 --> 00:06:14,400 government and not the kind of flip and 175 00:06:21,110 --> 00:06:17,360 answer that was given by the air force 176 00:06:23,590 --> 00:06:21,120 where they passed it off as a swamp gas 177 00:06:25,909 --> 00:06:23,600 the congress should investigate the rash 178 00:06:28,550 --> 00:06:25,919 of reported sightings of unidentified